Defendants attempt to block discovery in TCT lawsuit



Plaintiffs in the ongoing Campbell versus Tri-County Telephone Association lawsuit are alleging that defendants are blocking discovery in the case. The plaintiffs, Joe and Barbara Campbell, claim that they have produced 14,500 documents along with 71 witnesses. For the defendants, the firm of Hathaway & Kunz has produced just one document, they allege.

The suit alleges that TCT held more than $90 million in hard assets when it was sold for $51 million in 2014. Of the $51 million sale price, $12 million was to retire debt and $10 million was held back for “unseen liabilities,” leaving just $29 million to be paid to TCT cooperative owners.

The suit names TCT CEO Chris Davidson, TCT CFO Steve Harper and former board members Dalin Winters, J.O Sutherland, Daniel Greet, Clifford Alexander and John K. Johnson as defendants. Also included as defendants are Neil Schlenker, accounting firm Hathaway and Kunz and attorney Michael Rosenthal.

More details resulting in 70 more pages of legal documents were added to the complaint in the case in late December 2016, which included new details about termination fees, two book allegations and the code name “Project Buckskin” to refer to a takeover plan.

Since December, the plaintiffs have been trying to collect documents from the defendants as the case entered into the discovery phase.

The Campbells did not get too far into the discovery phase after the defendants filed a motion for Bifurcation of Discovery and Motion for Protective Order.

“Discovery is usually not desired by one who does not wish to be discovered,” the plaintiffs state in their memorandum opposing the motion for Bifurcation of Discovery. “More specifically, the person who has taken money from someone is not interested in the discovery of what he has done. Given their obvious motivations in seeking to withhold information, the actions of the Defendants should be scrutinized for their motivations in bringing the instant motion.”

A subpoena was also served to Rep. Mike Greear, R-Worland, who represented BHT Holdings and Schelenker when purchasing TCT. Greear objected to the subpoena, stating that the subpoena did not allow enough time, was a burden and that it violated attorney-client privileges.

The defendants also filed a motion to quash the subpoena served to Greear stating similar reasons as Greear’s written objection.

In the plaintiff’s Response to the Motion to Quash, it states, “David Clark is the lawyer for Mr. Greear. David Clark is also the lawyer for Defendant Schlenker and BHT. In the motion to quash, Mr. Clark says that, rather than asking Greear for the documents, the Plaintiffs should get documents from Schlenker or BHT. The same Mr. Clark has sought to block the Plaintiffs from obtaining the documents from Schlenker and BHT. Mr. Greear and Mr. Clark are simply playing a discovery shell game: go there; no go there; no go over there. This ploy is not new. It is one of the tools frequently used by cover-up artists.”

The cost of delaying discovery

In the plaintiffs’ Memorandum in Opposition to motion for
Bifurcation of Discovery, they list the many benefits the defendants have from attempting to block and delay discovery. The memorandum takes note that BHT entities withheld $10 million in funds from owners as a “litigation fund” to “fund their own defense of a lawsuit by the owners.”

The plaintiffs also allege that the delay benefits the defendants financially, claiming that every day that passes Schlenker and BHT make more than $20,958 in daily operating profits. By their calculations, delaying the discovery and the case by 180 days could result in more than $3.7 million in potential profit.

They also allege that the delay gives defendants time to move assets, pointing out that Defendant Davidson is moving assets potentially in an effort to avoid judgment.

“Delay allows the defendants to restructure to avoid judgment,” the memorandum states. “TCT, Schlenker and BHT are in the process of partially restructuring the TCT entities from a financial perspective and counsel for the TCT and the BHT entities have refused to answer questions relating to the actions being taken before the Public Service Commission.“

The memorandum also alleges that the delay could give defendants time to destroy evidence, forestalls a judgment on the merits, allows defendants to further coordinate their stories rather than to disclose the underlying facts, will slow the plaintiffs’ efforts to indentify further claims and necessary parties and will foster


The plaintiffs in their memorandum also list a variety of different comparisons from how the Campbells and the defendants have handled the ongoing case.

They point out that when asked to be more specific by the court on the allegations relating to fraud, they added 70 pages to their First Cause of Action. They allege the defendants have denied the allegations and “failed to admit or deny many, if not most, of the factual allegations of the Second Amended Compliant.” The plaintiffs have also produced more than 14,500 pages of documents and stated that the plaintiffs were required to decode the encryption that the defendants allegedly embedded into those files that would have prevented the disclosure of critical documents. They also state that most defendants have yet to produce a single document. Rosenthal and Hathaway & Kunz have provided one document and that the defendants have listed 18 witnesses compared to the plaintiffs’ 71 witnesses.

They also state that the plaintiffs have revealed through initial disclosures that members of the class were excluded from the payout and that they disclosed internal correspondence in which the defendants allegedly discussed ways of withholding money from specified owners they did not like.

The memorandum also states that the plaintiffs have issued document requests to each of the defendants and have issued subpoenas to non-parties when seeing that none of the defendants were producing documents with their initial disclosures. They go on to state that the defendants have served no discovery requests, no class discovery and no merits discovery but filed the instant motion to block discovery.

“The defendants are not responding or providing documents on what they think is class-based discovery, but rather, are refusing to respond to any and all discovery,” the memorandum states.

They also state that the defendants claim that there is an inconvenience and expense to the discovery request but noted in the memorandum, “The defendants have the assistance of at least 10 lawyers, numerous paralegals and staffs and yet most of the defendants have yet to produce a single document.”

The memorandum also discloses in a footnote that one of the lawyers for the Schlenker and BHT group of defendants is James Kramer of the Orrick Law Firm in San Francisco. Kramer advertises himself as the co-chair of the White Collar Crime section of the firm.

The plaintiffs’ claim the defendants did not inform them of this and that they learned of it by emails. Kramer was present in the case and copied in on emails from the defendants.


In the plaintiffs’ memorandum, they list out a section with the subhead “What the defendants don’t want you to know.” They listed out a list similar to the “Late Show with David Letterman” would do with a “Top 10 List.” The plaintiffs came up with their “Top Four List” of issues they allege the defendants don’t want you to know in this case.

They are as follows:

Number 4: The plaintiffs have produced to the defendants drafts of “Change of Control Agreements” that, if signed, would have provided for substantial payments to Davidson as CEO and Harper as CFO if the takeover occurred. The plaintiffs have requested unrestricted discovery of all such information because the change of control payment agreements allegedly would show that Davidson and Harper, while officers of the Cooperative owing fiduciary duties to the owners, had financial incentive to be working for Schlenker against the owners.

Number 3: On behalf of the owner class, the plaintiffs requested discovery of emails between Davidson, the board members and Rosenthal, discussing the manufacturing of alleged reasons to not pay some members their portion of the payout from the transaction.

The plaintiffs claim they are in possession of email correspondence reflecting that the defendants were inventing reasons not to pay certain owners and that they do not have a complete list of information on how much of the $29 million in the transaction funds are not paid to owners.

Number 2: The plaintiffs requested discovery related to USF and NECA income, much of which they allege is unaccounted for.

They state that in “the September 19, 2014 sale packet, the Defendants reported the rural subsidy had severely declined and might be eliminated in the future. However, contrary to these statements, High Cost USF Funds were actually up by $1,051,690 in calendar year 2014 compared to calendar year 2013, according to publicly available USAC data. The Defendants don’t want to talk about the USF funds.”

Number 1: The plaintiffs requested discovery of emails to and from Kelly Fowler, who is Schlenker’s business partner, on Fowler’s 2008 business valuation of the TCT entities. The plaintiffs allege knowledge of an allegedly much higher value of the cooperative than what was disclosed to the owners in public statements in 2014.

“The business valuation was sent to Defendant Chris Davidson from Kelly Fowler for Davidson’s ‘eyes only. The presentation also discussed the possibility of a TCT management takeover of the TCT entities. While searching for required rule 26 discovery material, the Plaintiffs uncovered this secret email and secret business valuation embedded in an email,” the memorandum states. “According to the Kelly Fowler 2008 valuation, performed by GLC, which is a private equity firm, based on sales of companies comparable to TCT, the owners could expect to receive cash payments of between $72.5 million and $81.6 million for their ownership. The value of the Verizon partnership would have resulted in additional cash payments to the owners on top of the potential $81.6 million.”

The plaintiffs allege that Schlenker began his effort to “take over TCT” allegedly by using the owners’ own cash just seven months after the date of the Fowler business valuation.

The plaintiffs point out that the defendants’ 2014 disclosure to the owners stated that the owners would be receiving “actual cash outlay” of $51 million “paid by the buyer.” And they go on to claim that that statement to the owners was an alleged fabrication and point out the reason they believe so.

“The transaction documents show that Schlenker and the BHT entities agreed to pay $19.3 million for the Verizon asset and the TCT investment companies, with approximately $9 million paid in patronage credits from the owners’ own cash (what the owners already owned), with nothing paid for the Cooperative (telecom assets), yet in 2008, Kelly Fowler, in discussing a ‘management takeover’ did a valuation stating that up to $81,600,000 would be the fair payment to the owners not considering the additional value of the Verizon asset and outside investments. Thus, the 2014 claim of an ‘actual cash layout’ of $51 million was a total fabrication,” the memorandum states.

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Hospital responds to public concerns



The South Big Horn County Hospital District released a questions and answers statement on their Facebook page late last week. This comes after more than 150 people expressed concerns to the hospital at their March 22 board meeting.

“We hope this clarifies the questions and concerns expressed by some of our patients and community members,” said CEO John Adlesich.

At the meeting it was disclosed to attendees that the Drug Enforcement Agency and Wyoming Department of Criminal Investigation are conducting an investigation at the hospital.

The questions and answers release, which was completed by hospital administration and the hospital board of trustees, covers a variety of different issues and topics.

“SBHCHD will make information public as soon as permitted by state and federal regulations. Many of these regulations prohibit the hospital from making some information available publicly, but the district will certainly provide information as it becomes available and as allowed by authorities,” the release stated.

The also stated that staff and providers have been made aware of this ongoing investigation.

When questioned if it was good practice to self investigate before contacting authorities, the hospital stated, ”It is routine and best practices for hospitals to review their own policies, procedures and operations to ensure they are meeting state and federal regulations. This self-inspection ensures patients receive the best care and the hospital follows applicable state and federal regulations.”

The hospital stated that many of the recent changes were to put the facility in line state and federal regulations, but did not comment on which regulations the hospital was violating.

They did state, however, that the Powell Valley Healthcare pharmacy, who is currently managing the pharmacy at the hospital, was not the focus of the DEA investigation.

The concerned citizens who attended the meeting were also curious as to why the public was not made aware of the changes or the investigation before now.

“SBHCHD was committed to ensuring the privacy of our staff and providers and maintaining the integrity of this ongoing investigation. As a result, we were unable to comment earlier about our concerns and the current investigation,” the hospital stated.

Provider concerns addressed

During the hospital board meeting last month many who spoke and addressed the board were concerned about the resignations of Dr. Demar Hill and physician assistant Heather Sanders.

Some asked the board whether the providers left on their own accord or were forced out.

“Recent provider resignations were voluntary and not the result of SBHCHD or its board pushing them out. Unfortunately, due to state and federal regulations, as well as to protect the privacy of these individuals, we are unable to comment on any specifics regarding their resignations,” the hospital stated. The statement added that the district is not pushing out their providers in order to make more money.

Some also questioned whether the providers were being given the presumption of innocence, and the hospital responded by stating again that the resignations were voluntary.

Another asked that, if Dr. Hill cared about the hospital and the community, why would he resign?

The hospital did not comment on this question.

When asked if the hospital would reinstate the providers that resigned, the district stated, “SBHCHD is unable to comment on individual personnel issues, but is focused on recruiting new physicians willing to practice and relocate to South Big Horn County.”

The hospital anticipates new physicians will start within four to five months. In the meantime, SBHCHD will be hiring a physician to cover Dr. Hill’s schedule in the clinic and hospital. Those being recruited will be permanent physicians and nurses for the facility.

Dedication to patient care

At the board meeting last month, some who addressed the board were concerned about patient care. In their statement online, the district stated they have a financial aid program set up to help patients who are unable to pay their bills. If a patient is unwilling to apply for financial assistance or does not qualify and is still unwilling to pay their bill after 120 days, their bills will be sent to collection. Patients who are terminated from the clinic would also not be able to receive outpatient services.

“Due to federal regulations, terminated patients are always able to receive care at our Emergency Room. This policy ensures that all patients are treated equally and patients able to pay do not unfairly receive services for free, paid for by other patients,” the release stated.

Patients were also concerned after losing their primary care provider where to turn for care. One patient at the board meeting stated that she was told to find another doctor when she called the clinic to set up an appointment.

“We regret this occurred, but want all patients to know that our providers are accepting new patients,” the hospital stated.

They also added that providers at the clinic are available to schedule appointments, review current medications and discuss future treatment plans.

The clinic was also accepting same day appointments at the time of the release.

Ambulance Service issue resolved

The issue of what ambulance service the hospital uses was addressed at the meeting last month. Many were concerned that waiting on an ambulance service like Powell’s puts patient safety in jeopardy and causes taxpayer money to go out of Big Horn County.

The hospital in their written response stated that they use the local Atwood Ambulance service for nearly all transports.

“However, there are some situations where medically necessary services are unavailable from Atwood’s (for example, if a patient were to require a ventilator for transport and was stable enough to be transported by ground) and a SBHCHD provider would call West Park Hospital or Powell Valley Healthcare (both of which can provide the medically necessary service(s)),” they stated.

They also added that they have recently used ACLS training and will continue to utilize them in the future when appropriate.

“All SBHCHD providers, locum and physician, ensure patients are transported by the most medically appropriate means. If a patient requires a level of care not provided by Atwood’s Ambulance (e.g. requiring a ventilator), they will call Powell Valley Healthcare or West Park Hospital. As previously mentioned, SBHCHD and Atwood’s Ambulance have an improved working relationship and we utilize them for most of our transports,” the release stated.

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Hospital cooperates with DEA investigation

More than 150 voice concerns at hospital board meeting

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The Drug Enforcement Administration is currently investigating a case at South Big Horn County Hospital. The DEA, along with the Wyoming Department of Criminal Investigation and local law enforcement, are performing a joint investigation into possible patient safety violations.

South Big Horn County Hospital District board chairman Jeff Grant broke the news of the DEA and DCI investigation to more than 150 citizens who attended the monthly board meeting Wednesday, March 22.

The hospital is fully cooperating with the investigations.

For more than two hours the board heard concerns from local citizens, former employees and community leaders about what has been happening at the hospital. Grant stated that many of the changes that have happened in the last year at the hospital have taken place to comply with state and federal regulations.

In early March, Dr. Demar “Dusty” Hill, Physician Assistant Heather Sanders and Physician Assistant Sarah Watt all turned in their resignations. Many patients were looking where to turn following the news that their primary care providers would no longer be at the hospital.

Grant announced at the meeting that Watt had rescinded her resignation and will be staying on as a PA at the hospital.

“What do you people don’t get?” board member Sue Antley asked the audience during the meeting.

Many shouted out encouraging the board to talk to them and explain what they are missing.

“Our hands are tied. Do you understand that?” Antley said.

Many yelled out “no” to Antley’s question.

“Do you know what the DEA does?” Antley asked. “Tell me, do you understand that?”

“Yeah, they deal with drug cartels,” said Dan Kussro.

“Okay, I rest my piece there,” Antley said.

“But what does that have to do with our local providers?” Kussro asked Antley.

“What do you think?” Antley yelled.

Many in the audience cried out saying they don’t know what it meant.

“You’re smart people; figure it out,” said Antley.

Grant then interjected with a makeshift gavel and said they should move on with audience questions.

“South Big Horn County Hospital District itself is not being investigated by the DEA or Wyoming DCI,” said CEO John Adlesich. “The District, however, is cooperating fully with their investigation.”

Love for providers

Many people in the audience had stories of providers and voiced concern over the loss of their primary care providers.

Dr. Hill, who has worked at the hospital for nearly 20 years, has found cancer in some of his patients and according to some has saved their lives and lives of family and friends.

Greybull resident Jamie Keisel addressed her concerns to the board and shared how Hill was a small-town doctor who would make house calls to her family and friends in the past.

“He will come to your house and he will sit with you and he will cry with you,” said Keisel. “You know what we love about Dusty. He chews and he cusses and if you don’t like that you can go somewhere else because that is Dusty Hill.”

Mike Laird also spoke of the good he has seen Hill do in the past. He recounted a story about a small, three-month premature baby that he rushed over in an ambulance. He talked about the work and the praying that was done in the ER to help save the baby.

“If it was not for Dusty Hill and the staff that night, that baby would not be walking today,” said Laird. “He saved that little girl’s life.”

He also added that after his son was in a vehicle accident he rushed him into the ER at the hospital.

“Sir, I don’t know if you have kids or not,” Laird said to Adlesich. “But you need to listen to the people who have kids along with the rest of the board. My son was 18 years old when I brought him in here in an ambulance. I found him in a vehicle accident. He was not breathing and I did CPR on him bringing him into this hospital. I cannot thank Dusty Hill and the staff enough for what they did for him to save six other lives. My son is not here today, but he is living today in six people and six other families are happy. Let me tell you it’s because of Dusty Hill and the staff that night. He saved six other lives.”

He also added that traveling nurses and doctors are likely to cost the hospital more money.

Randi  Noble of Basin is concerned about losing providers, nurses and other familiar faces at the hospital.

“I didn’t plan on talking, but I think we are forgetting someone else here who is important who I think was treated poorly and that is (nurse) Tolyn Brewer,” said Noble. “I have a little boy who has catastrophic health issues. Every one of those people who has resigned, Sarah, Heather, Dusty, they know my Landon. When I show up with him I don’t have to explain his entire list of issues; they know. And sometimes I don’t have time to explain that list of issues. So if we don’t have people here who are invested, who know us on a personal level… We are not some face that shows up. We are their neighbors. We are people that they genuinely care about. I’m not coming here. The last two times that Landon’s had to be treated I drove right past here and went to Cody.”

John Adlesich spoke after the meeting of concerns many in the community have about losing Hill.

“Community members are concerned about the future of their health care, particularly the loss of Dr. Hill,” Adlesich said. “Much of their concerns, however, are the result of the hospital’s inability to release specifics behind the recent investigation by the DEA and Wyoming DCI. Once more information becomes public, I believe most will understand the hospital and its board are acting in their best interest.”

Patient safety concerns

Many concerned citizens spoke to the board about instances of safety, care and negligence they have experienced at the hospital recently.

Basin resident Renee Naylor voiced her concerns after an incident occurred at the hospital involving her daughter-in-law.

“We were turned away from the emergency room,” said Naylor. “My daughter-in-law just passed away from ovarian cancer. We brought her here in December. We were told that they could not admit her because there are not enough beds.”

Naylor said they started making their way to Worland to see if they could admit her in their hospital’s emergency room. She called her daughter-in-law’s surgeon in Billings and was told by a nurse to take her back to the emergency room at South Big Horn County Hospital and that they would admit her.

“We brought her back,” Naylor continued. “The physician’s assistant stood at my daughter-in-law’s bedside. Before she got into bed she was on her knees crying in pain. I had a sour taste in my mouth. She passed away Feb. 4. I have heard lots of public comments. I hope the administration might feel like they need to fix some issues here. I just want everyone to be aware that there have been things that have happened that aren’t right.”

Basin resident Maryanna Wheeler also addressed concerns regarding her husband’s care when he was admitted to the hospital recently.

She stated that the staff was cold and uninviting and that four nurses stood behind the nurse’s station.

“The doctor just said, ’He is dying. We would like to keep him overnight.’ And we could take him home tomorrow and to call hospice. When I came the next day he was still in his clothes that we took him out there in. He said he kept telling somebody that his oxygen level isn’t right. The next day they found a hole in his hose.”

Wheeler said that in mid-March she and her family drove past the hospital and took her husband up to a hospital in Cody.

“There they met everybody in the emergency room. They kept him alive long enough for the kids. They set up food for all of us. They kept him comfortable until his last breath. Out here nobody seemed to care about him whatsoever. And to think I left him there and he was still in the clothes that I took him out in. That is disgusting. I just want people to know.”

Former nurse Margaret Dahike stated to the board that she felt like patient safety is a huge issue at the hospital. She stated she took her concerns to Director of Nursing Yvonne Bargeron and CEO Adlesich. After she reported issues to them, she stated, she became blacklisted.

“There are far deeper issues to be addressed and that is the nursing staff,” said Dahike. “I felt like my nursing license was in jeopardy.”

The hospital is conducting another interview this week for a possible provider.

“South Big Horn County Hospital District is committed to ensuring our patients receive safe care,” said Adlesich after the meeting. “Many of the recent changes are the result of this commitment and ensuring our residents receive the best care possible.

Ambulance service

The ambulance service the hospital uses for transport has been an ongoing issue in recent months. Recently the hospital had started to use Powell Valley Hospital for transport up to Billings while letting the local Atwood’s Ambulance sit the transport out.

According to the hospital, they asked Atwood’s for a list of employees and their certifications along with a list of medications they have on the ambulance. According to Grant and Adlesich the hospital does not have a contract with Powell Valley Hospital.

Bob Paxton asked the board about a of couple of pictures he was sent by employees of the hospital. One picture was of a sign stating that the hospital could now use Cody for transport. It was dated January 2017 and signed by DON Bargeron. The second one was not dated and stated to use Powell Valley Hospital for ground transport.

“Since we do use some taxpayer money, why aren’t we using our local ambulance service for these transports?” asked Paxton. “If they are not qualified or if they need some extra equipment they don’t have on, why can’t we work with them and see if we can get this straightened out so that the money that we do pay with our taxes goes back into this community instead of going to another community?”

Kent Dempsey read a statement from Claudine Murdoch regarding the ambulance service and her late husband Paul’s views on the local ambulance service. Paul served on the county’s rural health board until he passed away in February.

Dempsey read the following statement:

“As Paul Murdoch’s widow I would like to clarify some information that has been circulating in our community about Paul’s view related to our current rural health controversies. Paul was the chairman of the Rural Healthcare Board and there were certain issues he was passionate about. In fact on the day of his death he was engaged in efforts to continue to keep our local tax dollars within our district. There is no doubt that Paul supported our local ambulance service and the outstanding workers who serve us. He fought for our ambulance service to remain within our district until the day he died. Of course these facts have easily been turned around as we all grapple with the issues facing our local clinic and hospital and I felt like it was important to speak the truth for Paul and for all of you to hear.”

According to rural health board member Laura Huber, the matter regarding the hospital and Atwood Ambulance service has be resolved. She said Atwood’s has turned in the information the hospital requested and they are being used for transport.

“South Big Horn County Hospital District and Atwood’s Ambulance continues to work together in the best interest of our county’s residents,” said Adlesich after the meeting. “Past concerns have been resolved and we are now working together.”

Hospital work environment

Some concerns that have been circulating about the hospital have been allegations of a hostile work environment. According to a survey done by the board of directors, 12 percent of employees are unhappy or very unhappy.

Board member Margie Triplett dove into more of the statistics of the survey during the board meeting. She stated that seven questions were sent to 76 employees who were able to respond anonymously. Of the 76 sent out, 42 were returned. Roughly 33 percent had a positive view of the hospital.

Current employee Robynn Terry spoke on behalf of some employees during the meeting.

“I’m here to speak on behalf of the staff to show support for our administrator and our board of directors,” Terry said. “People do not always do well with change. Yes, we do have some staff that is not happy with the changes being made, but the majority are happy. Changes have been made for the better of this facility regardless of the information out in the community. We have complete trust in both the administrator and the board of directors.”

Connie Werbelow addressed the board about concerns of a number of people being fired or forced out of the facility.

“A person that feels appreciated will always do more than what is expected,” Werbelow said. “That is not the work environment at South Big Horn County Hospital. I’ve talked to numerous current employees and ex-employees and the common denominator they always tell me is the problem is the administration. I don’t doubt the board when they tell us there were violations and things need to be done differently. Rather than treating employees like they are a member of the team, John Adlesich has treated them as if they were disposable. I truly believe he lacks the compassion and the people skills necessary to build a positive work environment. The board is elected to represent this community and I, for one, do not believe Mr. Adlesich has the best interests of the community at heart.”

“I tell you, if I had those numbers and I’m not the math wiz that you probably are, that doesn’t sound good to me,” Dempsey said. “I would have lost my job 10 years ago if that many people were dissatisfied. I’m cautious of that and I think we really need to buckle down on what the issues are.”

What’s Next?

This hospital and the board are going through people’s concerns and writing up written responses to some of them.

“This meeting was a good opportunity to give people the chance to talk,” said Grant. “This was not about arguing or debating. We sat back and let people speak their piece.”

“South Big Horn County Hospital District will continue to serve the residents of South Big Horn County Hospital District,” said Adlesich. “We continue to hire new staff, providers, and ensure the needs of our patients are met.”

He added that they hope to have written responses available to the questions by the end of this week.

“We will get through this and it will be good,” said

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